You wrote,

"One of the things that pushed me over the edge, or closer to it anyway was when the info about the Merlin/ Arthur seminar came out. In particular the line about the current being "the only current that can take us all the way home". Since when are there "onlys" in this spirirual path."

That one was a HUGE for me as well. It just seemed way too out there and very disturbing. It hit me the same way as when Jach told me that I had "Insulted Lazaris" during our upset on the Forum. It went against everything I understood Lazaris to be about.

I didn't get into that material very much and you can correct me if I am wrong but it appeared to be aligned with a patriarchal system of spirituality. Being a big fan of the book The Mists of Avalon (A feminist perspective on the Arthurian legion) I not really into the traditional version of the story. If it really is the 'only' way home, I happy to stay 'lost' in the 'Mists'.

Blessed Be, Lynn

Welcome to the site, I've enjoyed your posts and comments.

You asked -
"Did any of you take the time you didn't really have or spend money you didn't have to go to workshops out of a sense you would miss something or out of fear because of anything Jach or Lazaris said? I'm not talking self generating it, but stimulated by comments made by Jach or Lazaris?"

Well, yes. I recall when I saw the flyer for the first Aurthurian legends seminar, there was a statement about how this was the "only" current that could take us all the way home. Alarm bells went off within. This was so contrary to my spiritual beliefs that it really raised my doubts even more than they already were. I went though. What a bunch of tripe. As I was sitting there I noticed that the woman sitting next to me had the said flyer and she had that sentence highlighted. It felt like such a manipulation. I don't know why, that one just stood out to me more.

Also, I used to belong to a lazaris material centered therapy group where lots of members went to the seminars. Back in the 80s I was accumulating debt and going to these seminars wasn't helping. So I finally reached the point where I said I couldn't fly out to California for a particular seminar. Well the shit hit the fan. Why? Because it wouldn't have been financially responsible for me to go. But that answer just wasn't acceptable. I definitely felt like a second class spiritual citizen. And I felt there was a type of pressure to keep up, as if such a thing were possible. And keeping up with what? Who will be the most brainwashed? No thanks.