Welcome. Your posts are a helpful additon to the message board and I'm really glad to hear that you left the Forum.

The problem with the beauty of a "stolen diamond" is that every time you look at it to enjoy it's beauty, there is a bad feeling associated with it because the source lacks integrity. I don't think it's neccesary to compromise an area as significant as spirituality. Even if the information is good, there is a better way that doesn't have an ugly side. I think we owe that to ourselves.

I also was involved with Concept:Synergy for 14 years. In fact, I attended what I think was the first Tradevest meeting, it took place in Marin . That was the initial thing that bothered me. In an earlier post, I explained a wretched, shattering experience on the forum. Fortunately my time there was brief, but I was unable to resolve my feelings about the viscious, attacking, and unforgiving behavior there (over four years ago) until I found this site earlier this month. I never could reconcile Peny and Jach's and the other forum members nasty, controlling posts with the Lazaris material or with my positive experiences. It never occurred to me that Lazaris was a hoax because I continued to focus on what I liked, while diminishing what I didn't like.

I too thought the support of right wing politics was way off base. l looked in on the forum several months after my incident. Peny was discussing using sacred geometry to negatively affect Clinton. Why not program for a positive future for the country instead negatively focusing on one person as "the enemy"? And saying that the "New Age" wouldn't happen if a Democrat won the next presidential election. Liberals like myself were considered "adolescent" or worse. There was no dialogue, only reinforcemet of conservative opinion.

Now I'm feeling that since my intent was, and is, to grow spiritually, I used what I had made available to myself and did grow. I would have done the same if I had become a Christian or followed some other route. I let the love and growth in through the perspective and terminology of the teachings to which I was exposing myself. But I have realized that I don't need anyone else's teachings, clever hoax or not, to grow. In fact, I'm much better off without it.

Concerning the techniques, I read on an anti-cult site that taking a truth, then expanding on it to create more complexity is part of the drill.

So Jeremiah, I want to be clear that I'm just expressing my opinion and telling my experience because I know you have to make up your own mind where Lazaris is concerned.

Lorca