One arguement in defense of Lazaris that has been vollyed here often is that Lazaris is seperate entity from Jach and Peny and should not be held accountable for their misdeeds. The argument goes on to say that Lazaris wouldn't interfere with whatever they had to learn by being nasty.

Ok. fine.

Assuming for the sake of argument that Lazaris is his own entity and who he says he is.

Lazaris is not a proponent of the new agey "non interferrence" philosophy.

Lazaris often talked about how if you create a person who is drowning in front of you or starving in front of you, it isn't to give you the experience of watching someone drown or starve.

Lazaris suggests we create such situations in order to extend love in the form of a helping hand or food.

So my question to those that insist that Lazaris would never interfere is what about the numbers of people running themselves into bankruptcy and spiritual despair to attend Lazaris events?

What about the numbers of people who have been abused in the forum THAT BEARS HIS NAME?

Why did Lazaris ignore that reality that he created?

It is NOT ABOUT LAZARIS SAVING ANYONE but about addressing the impact that they seem to be having on people.

At the very least to acknowedge it, if even to disown responsiblity for it.

Cannot quite figure that one out myself.

Also, you could make a pretty strong argument that Lazaris IS Concept Synergy.

What is CS without Lazaris? A bunch of tacky exhippy misfits with a bunch of overpriced crystals and an abundance of bad bahavior.

Sounds inviting right?

No.

Without Lazaris they are nothing, so you cannot really say that Lazaris is unaware of that or does not accept responsiblity for being THAT IMPORTANT to so many people.

Thoughts?

Jeremiah

I read your latest post to Jeremiah, what I see again in this post is what I'm seeing expressed more and more on this thread and others, so I'd like to comment briefly.

It all seems to boil down to an overall belief, and the various other belief systems based upon the central one which is: Lazaris is truly an otherworldly being, who speaks the truth..etc..

I appreciate this, and can empathize because I was in that place myself, feels like so long ago, but I was there.

Please don't think I am dismissing you, and those with your beliefs, as "poor souls, still under the ether"

BUT, at the end of the day that is what I see here, not much more than a back and forth of you, and others unable to face what I and others see as cold hard facts that wrong was done, in the name of good etc.

There is nothing more to say about it, I'm aware of the processes of freeing onself from a cult, and cult belief systems, and know that at various times in the future everyone( or most everyone) WILL come to a similar realization about Jach/L. that I have.

I appreciate the pain for all involved in that process.