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thedoc
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posted 04-28-2004 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thedoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insights and Confessions of an English Hypnotist

I have stated I believe, in the book I was not a Sai Baba devotee, and I am still not. The message I received - telepathically - from Baba while visiting his ashram was he was not my Master, we are own Masters. The purpose of life is to master ourselves. Baba does not want people throwing themselves at his feet. I believe he wants people to recognise god within themselves. His miracles are but tricks? Some trick to build a hospital in one year that would have taken five in Europe or the USA and perform an open heart operation exactly one year to the day as he said he would. Some trick only 2% infection rate with all operations.
As I said in the book I first saw him on a television program manifesting vibuti. He had a vase turned upside down and he was shaking his hand inside the vase. It was an Indian holy festival day. The thing was the pile of vibuti that had come out of the vase was ten times larger than the vase itself!
Whatever he is - he is not like you and me - in my opinion. The allegations against him? I make no judgement.
What I will say is if it was not for the women that walks the streets other women would not want chastity, so I bless her. If it was not for the thief steeling maybe I would be a thief instead, so I must bless him too.
See god in all, the begger the thief and the holy man/priest. And Sai Baba says the same to. I cannot find fault with his teachings. But I am not a devotee, and I make no judgement upon the allegation against him.
Does that answer your question?
Sai Baba is beyond my understanding. God is beyond my understanding. I do believe Sai Baba is an Avatar.
The claim of child abuse. Wow! I make no judgement, how can I as I do not know the real truth.
What I do believe is, he is not a normal soul like you and me. He is what he is - and what is that? - beyond our limited time trapped thoughts.
The answer to any question can be found in the silence of the mind and the voice within the heart - thats what true meditation is - transending the senses.
Love and Light
Jeremy

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Katie
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posted 04-29-2004 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jeremy,

I don't believe that Sai Baba is a normal soul like you and me either.

He sexually molests little boys and has done and continues to do incalculable harm to countless thousands of people. That is because he's protected by an inner gang of thugs, and an outer gang of irresponsible airheads.

We've gotten into this topic before here, so I'm not going to belabor it. The facts are out there for anyone who gives a crap about facts.

All this new-age bubble about being "non-jugemental" is irresponsible and destructive beyond measure. And I won't state that as only my opinion, because we have proved it here many times over.

Rationality proves it, civilization proves it.

Here is a wealth of dirt on Sai Baba.

http://www.factnet.org/cults/Sai_Baba/Bhagavan_Sri_Sathya_Sai_Baba.htm?FACTNet


You have a responsibility as a human being to familiarize yourself with the facts, to make a judgement on this information, and to act on it from a place of ethics.

People who don't think they have to do that because it might shake up some cherished beliefs or basis for their self-promotions, and overblown beliefs about their own wisdom and state of enlightenment have no business handing out advice to anyone.

I leave it to your conscience whether or not to spend some time researching all the available information about Sai Baba, and whether or not to get back to us with your thoughts and opinions once you have.

Katie

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Joe108
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posted 08-25-2005 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katie, it is obvious that you don't care for the "facts". The facts are that Sathya Sai Baba (SSB) NEVER sexually abused "little boys" (your words). There is only one story about SSB abusing a 7 year old boy, that was attributed to Dr. Bhatia. However, the story came from an ANONYMOUS source. It cannot be verified in any manner, fashion or form. Also, Anti-Sai Activists have clarified (and who knows by what means) that the "7 year old boy" was actually a "7th standard boy", making him around 14 years old, not 7. Even so, it is still unverifiable, anonymous and contradictory to Dr. Bhatia's other statements.

Where is your proof for SSB being protected by an "inner gang of thugs"? It is very easy for people to blindly attack others, nevertheless it takes a person of true character to back up their claims with evidence, data or documents.

And the "wealth of dirt on Sai Baba" has been shown to be exactly that, a "wealth of dirt".

There is now a comprehensive website that takes an honest look into the allegations, lies, deceit and dishonesty made against Sathya Sai Baba, by Anti-Sai Activists:


Katie, as you said:

"You have a responsibility as a human being to familiarize yourself with the facts, to make a judgement on this information, and to act on it from a place of ethics."

I think you have some reading to do.

[This message has been edited by Katie (edited 08-25-2005).]

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Katie
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posted 08-25-2005 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll tell you what "Joe"...give me your number and we'll chat about it. I'd like to hear your voice.

Your post was edited to remove the link to material we don't feel like hosting.

Send your phone number, I'll ring you up, and we can go over the information.

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posted 08-26-2005 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joe, I checked out your website and all I can say is that the "evidence" you provide to "prove" that Sai Baba is innocent of all charges is as bogus as it gets.

It's quite cool that you believe in Sai Baba and all, but that's hardly proof of anything.

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