For those not familiar with the Lazaris material on co-dependency, getting only slightly hip to what Lazaris talks about on those tapes will reveal this latest manipulation on the part of Pursel and company as an invitation to a codependent dance of silence, obedience and shame.

A blatantly self-serving, self protective move. Maybe their adrenal glands are overworked. Pumping without mercy at the very real threat of an honest confrontation.

But that’s them, we know them. Enough said perhaps.

But the sycophants defending their object of adoration in the face of such blatant betrayal?

Zealotry is an unforgiving master on the soul and the body.

Yet one still has to wonder how it is lost on the gnashing throng of objector/protectors that Jach Pursel’s latest missive to them is a not so thinly veiled invitation embrace him in a codependency of silence, shame and obedience.

Jach opines:

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Many of you received a spam email that was sent anonymously. A
few of you wrote an email to me or to the office expressing
your outrage and disgust as well as your anger that someone
would send such an email"

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Here he begins by instructing the faithful of the correct response to his duplicity being revealed.

Outrage.

Not at him, of course, at the messenger.

Lazaris points out that one of the defining characteristics of a codependent relationship is the enforcement of oppressive rules regarding what can and cannot be discussed and how.

Lazaris also points out that in a codependent relationship there are many topics that are not allowed to be brought up.

CS must have been caught off guard by the intensity of anger, not to mention the probably unprecedented circumstance of having a significant number of clients mustering the temerity to question the facts surrounding Peny’s sad death, her husband’s subsequent suicide.

In their arrogance and perhaps their grief, they probably convinced themselves that they could handle this hemorrhaging in the manner that they usually employed, silence and selected spin.

Invoking the ever-popular “privacy” clause, they manage to offer those conditioned in fear to stop the natural healthy questioning process by feeding them a smug self righteous response to any raised eyebrow.

They are given the gift of respecting Concept Synergy’s “privacy” at the expense of their own legitimate questions and concerns.

They are also given tacit support to attack those who decide to be loyal to themselves and not a business they have no profit from.

DIVERT the legitimate anger felt for Jach Pursel and Concept Synergy to a target that is disposable.

I will say it again; divert the legitimately felt anger at a disposable target. Ted and Katie were considered disposable targets, many others also disposable targets.
People with friends and families and and feelings as important as any other human beings.

Raged on and disposed of like spent Kleenex.

Can anyone really believe that all of the malice and rage that was directed mercilessly at Ted and Katie in the J&L forum and subsequently heaped on them privately BEFORE they every put up this website had much if anything to do with them??? They were strong enough to bounce back. Can that be said about everyone CS has similarly done?

Can anyone argue that with any genuineness?

I think it is plain the unfelt/unexpressed rage and anger that the core CS gang and organization felt toward Penny and Jack coupled with the oppressive psychic burden of having to daily, twist P&J’s toxic, shaming dance of [ Jach's] passive and [Peny's] aggressive abuse into acts of love and kindness, made them a hornets nest of misplaced rage and aggression.

So they do what others in classic codependent relationships do. They alternately mimic the abuser and search, with laser focus for a target to express the rage and resentment they are not permitted to feel and discuss. All the while decrying how much they hate fighting [as Peny did both privately and a few times in the forum].

They may hate it but the dynamic of the forum demands it for the mythology built around Peny and Jach and Michaell to stay in place and that is more important than any one person, it would seem, to that organization.

The individual is disposable, the truth is irrelevant.

Jach writes:

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Those of you who wrote expressed
your love and support and that you were handling your process

and were “letting this go” and were undaunted by it"

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Support for what?

for the painfully obvious attempt to distort the facts and manufacture a myth that was exposed as a lie by the mystical order of the Orlando police department?

“undaunted”? Undaunted by what? an unsigned email? Or the truth? Which is more problematic for you and your business?

What an interesting word to use “undaunted” sounds so noble, so persevering. But undauntedness in embracing a lie in the face of the truth is far, far from noble.

“Letting this go” : what are they letting go of ? brain? dignity?

Not so nice Jach.

An “undaunted” Jach perisits:

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Also, I do not want to discuss that email in the Forum. I do
not want to dignify it with open discussion here. I do not
want to give the anonymous sender audience within this Room. I
ask that you not discuss the content of that email in the Room
either, for the same reasons. Thank you.

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Because you don’t want to discuss it, it wont be discussed.??

Who are you anyway and on what authority do you speak?.

And by the way, why are you thanking people for something they have no choice in?

Truth is, Jach won’t ALLOW this discussion. Posts attempting to do so were cancelled. So why is he thanking people for following orders?

Jach writes:

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To each of you, I apologize for allowing the safety of this
Room to be compromised"

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The “safety” of Jach’s room is most certainly an issue, not as he defines it but as it functions nobody is safe there.

In order to have personal safety one must be willing and free to think and feel. In that oppressive, toxic, oxegyn deprived purple tent no such "unsafe" activity is allowed.

A final word of caution to those tempted to dip in Jach’s codependent waltz:

Be advised, there will be no reward for your relinquishment of your will, your imagination, your thoughts and feelings at that altar of self interest and commerce known as Concept Synergy.

They do not respect your obedience, they merely demand it.

You will not be thanked and you will not be vindicated.

Question honestly.

Privacy and self-protectiveness are not the same thing, not by a long shot.

Your interests and Concept Synergy's interests are not one in the same.

And if Peny’s death and Michaell’s suicide were completely private affairs then why did Jach and Lazaris address them at all?

The circumstances and truth of these people’s deaths as well as how they lived can be discussed frankly and with respect for everyone involved.

Concept Synergy is a business, don’t forget that.

In closing, I would just like to say that metaphysics is real and and beautiful and enduring.

Metaphysics is certainly not owned and clearly not well understood by Concept Synergy.

One demand, I think, metaphysics makes on those who want the life is that you must be an individual.

In short, I just don’t think you can be a follower and create your own reality.

Think about that one.. and then make your choice.

Thanks,

Jeremiah

I'm glad to see you're back...

I missed your eloquent postings...this one is very pertinent indeed...

Letting jach - lead - in that waltz left me with my toes stepped on over and over, end of the dance: disheartened , weary and looking to get out of that ballroom....

Best,
Audrey

It's great to see you back in such great form! This is such an on target post, I almost wish our unseen friend "Coward" would send it out as a follow-up.

How can thinking, feeling people ignore the blatentcy of Jach's codependent set up here?

It isn't only Lazaris who mentions "taboo topics" being an indication of a sick or abusive relationship. It's one of those items listed on every questionaire I've ever seen to help someone figure out if their relationship is healthy or not. Crap, even Cosmo readers know that one.

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I think it is plain the unfelt/unexpressed rage and anger that the core CS gang and organization felt toward Penny and Jack coupled with the oppressive psychic burden of having to daily, twist P&J’s toxic, shaming dance of passive and aggressive abuse into acts of love and kindness, made them a hornets nest of misplaced rage and aggression.

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It does seem like a good idea to give some thought to the intense anger that is so easy to ignite amongst that group.

BTW, someone told me that recently there was another siege starting up in the Forum and that once the victim stopped posting he evidently continued to get ***unsolicted*** e-mail from forum members and complained about it. Piglet wrote a post and asked people to stop. No mention of terrorism or cowardice though. Yet another twisted standard for fair play.

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Metaphysics is real and and beautiful and requires individuality, imo, to be made real in ones life.

In short, I just don’t think you can be a follower and create your own reality.

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Amen to that, beautifully put, and a perfect summation of the belief that drives this site.

Katie

Welcome back! As per usual, I enjoyed your post. I stumbled upon this board shortly after you stopped posting and never got to thank you for all of your prior posts. I found many of them very beneficial when I was reading the entire site. I'm glad our paths could finally cross.

You said: Concept Synergy is a business, don’t forget that.

Money seems to be the paramount concern at CS. Whether people's souls and spirits are helped or harmed in the process seems to be secondary.

You said: Invoking the ever-popular “privacy” clause, they manage to offer those onditioned in fear to stop the natural healthy questioning process by feeding them a smug self righteous response to any raised eyebrow.

This whole P&M situation would have been so much better handled with honesty. Sure, they would have lost some customers, but nothing like they face losing now. They could have done it in such a way as to both maintain privacy and integrity. Who would have thought we would have to lecture Lazaris about honesty?

You know, we hear about well-known people, aquaintances, friends, becoming ill and dying on a daily basis. It has never once in my life occurred to me to pursue any further information regarding any death of anyone. You hear someone is sick, if you're interested you pay attention to the updates, when they die, you respond according to the nature of your relationship to them and their loved ones. Period end of sentence.

Jach's denial of Peny's illness, and then the spectacular non-information provided about both deaths is what cause me and I know others to want more details. Why? Because we had a morbid curiousity about Peny's health? No. Because we knew we were being razzle dazzled, because Peny functioned as a spiritual leader, and one who freely spoke on health issues and gave health related advice. We damned well have a right to know of any illnesses Peny suffered and why she died.

Imagine how the Con:Sinners would react if let's say Hillary Clinton suddenly resigned her Senate seat, dropped from public view, and then turned up dead with Bill's suicide to immediately follow, but not be reported for another 3 days. Yeah, I can hear them now.

Per usual, Con:Sin sets themselves above and beyond the rules and laws of civilized society.

Members of that group don't get to ask a lot of question, but they sure do get their money's worth in SMUGNESS.

your quote:

Jach's denial of Peny's illness, and then the spectacular non-information provided about both deaths is what cause me and I know others to want more details. Why? Because we had a morbid curiousity about Peny's health? No. Because we knew we were being razzle dazzled, because Peny functioned as a spiritual leader, and one who freely spoke on health issues and gave health related advice. We damned well have a right to know of any illnesses Peny suffered and why she died.

I agree 100% with this. Not only were we given health advice, we were buying tapes (Longevity: The Healing Tecnique) to heal ourselves because we believed that with the tapes we would be able to.

On side one Lazaris said that Peny came to him and asked him to come up with a tecnique to help us mapmakers with our health and so he did. We had a right to know if Peny's health was failing. If she couldn't do the tecniques and heal herself or "Lazaris" couldn't (I heard "Lazaris" say that many had been healed during the Sat. nite healing ceremonies) heal her then CS should have been honest about it. We all know why they weren't - it would have been an admission that the material didn't work the way they claimed it would.

Anytime a tecnique didn't work it was because it was something in us that wouldn't allow it to work and they surely couldn't say that about Peny.

Peny was supposed to be done with her processing and if she wasn't she had Lazaris to help her find the wayward belief and change it so that she could heal.
Hmmmm.... doesn't add up does it?

I feel hurt and angry at the way we were treated when Peny and Michaell died.

At least in spite of all the cover up at CS the truth did come out - thanks again "Concerned Friend". I will always be grateful.

Sincerely,

Mickey

ps Could someone please tell me how to put something in "quote" the right way?
thanks

You said: ps Could someone please tell me how to put something in "quote" the right way?

On the screen where you enter your reply, you will see a reference to "U.B.B. Code is on" and "Smilies Legend". If you click on the first, you will find various bracket commands that can be used (including Quote). The second will tell you how to use smilies and some other icons in your posts.

Finally, I was not initially aware that I could edit my posts. Just click on the icon with the paper and pencil that is listed above every post.

Cheers, Craig

Excellent post It's good to see you here again.

About the lost password: There is a link next to the password box on the reply form to retrieve a lost password. I didn't realize until now that it was de-activiated. I re-activated it, so all can feel free to use it. It will cause an email to be sent to you with your UserID and password. Of course, you registered with a bogus email address, it won't work. If you can't retrieve your email that way, feel free to email me at webmaster@cosmicfool.com and I'll send you your password.

Thanks for your answer on how to "quote" properly!

Sincerely,

Will write more soon but right now I only have a minute to thank you for your comments...will be back soon.

Cheers,

Jeremiah

PS. Ted, I did remember my password.. thanks..

It warms my heart to see your words posted here again. I have missed your energy!