You were doing so well for a while! Unfortunately, now it's back to slander.

Tsk, tsk...

I understand where you are coming from in regards to YOUR feelings and beliefs about Chris, and I have no problem with that. My most basic feelings in regards to this is that you seem to think that he's trying to say that no one should question whether or not Lazaris is hypnotizing people or not. I sincerely don't think he's doing this. I firmly believe that he's just giving people the information that HE has used and learned over the years. I'm sorry if I seemed snappy, but when you said:

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Chris claims to be an authority, you accept him as such, based on no information beyond his statements here as to his training. He admits that he has no credentials, having failed to follow up on the requirements to achieve them. (If I recall correctly).

I must admit Vicki, it is of concern to me that you or anyone are willing to accept Chris's authority on this topic simply based on the fact that you read the words of a complete stranger on an internet message board.

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I took it to mean that you thought that I wasn't thinking about what I was saying. And that really hurt my feelings. The reason I am defending Chris is because what he's saying is validating everything that I've ever read and it makes a lot of sense to me. I don't believe that Chris is trying to throw his weight around because he's the "big, bad hypnotherapist so you should believe everything that he says." (That sounds funny and is making me LOL.)Like I said, I think that he's trying to help people feel a little less scared about the prospect of being hypnotized--you know, the "booga-booga" you're in someone else's control--image that most people have. I really believe that he wants to help people Katie.

I hope that you didn't take what I said about being hurt to be negative because it wasn't meant that way. I meant it that you are taking a very hurtful situation and turning it into a strength for yourself. That's what the smartest people do. That's what I meant by saying that and I'm sorry if I wasn't clear and hurt you.

I am not going to say anything about how you and Chris interact with each other since I think that you are both saying things that are hurtful to each other. I think this is sad, since you are both good, caring people who seem to want to have a positive impact on people. (You seem to be anyway-- )

Later, gator.

Vicki

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My most basic feelings in regards to this is that you seem to think that he's trying to say that no one should question whether or not Lazaris is hypnotizing people or not.

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No, that isn't what my issue is, it's Chris' statements from a place of authority that no one need concern themselves about any possibility of negative impact by the Jachzaris "meditations", which I contend are hypnosis sessions.

If he stated that as an opinion, I would have no problem. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Statements of authority here will always be challenged by me.

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I'm sorry if I seemed snappy,....

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Hey, you can get snappy with me anytime you like. I have no problem with that. I adore signs of life!!

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I took it to mean that you thought that I wasn't thinking about what I was saying. And that really hurt my feelings.

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I hope you now understand that what I was questioning (am questioning) is the relative ease with which someone can establish themselves as an "authority". I note that in the context of how easily MOST of us accepted Lazaris, Peny, and Con:Sin as authorities. I was using your acceptance of Chris' stated authority as an example.

I certainly know that you are able to think things through, you among us were probably the least scammed by the Lazaris Show.

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The reason I am defending Chris is because what he's saying is validating everything that I've ever read and it makes a lot of sense to me. I don't believe that Chris is trying to throw his weight around because he's the "big, bad hypnotherapist so you should believe everything that he says." (That sounds funny and is making me LOL.)

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Well, I think it's fair to say that we disagree here. I have also posted a lot of information, even from sources recommended by Chris, which do not agree with his statements here. If you read those, then you can't say that you've never read anything that doesn't validate what he says.

I do think that Chris is trying to throw his weight around in here, so on that we disagree. That's ok too. I'm not demanding or requiring that everyone agree with me.

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Like I said, I think that he's trying to help people feel a little less scared about the prospect of being hypnotized--you know, the "booga-booga" you're in someone else's control--image that most people have. I really believe that he wants to help people Katie.

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Yes, I think so too Vicki, but the problem is, no one here asked for Chris's help. I also don't think it's very helpful to try to lull people into a state of complacence, given the information I have posted about how hypnosis can be used to implant false memories and beliefs. I very much believe that Jachzaris has and is doing that, and that it might explain a lot about why so many intelligent people are still such hardcore believers in a bunch of sci-fi nonsense. I think it's important that we be open to that possibility, and give it due consideration.

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I hope that you didn't take what I said about being hurt to be negative because it wasn't meant that way. I meant it that you are taking a very hurtful situation and turning it into a strength for yourself. That's what the smartest people do. That's what I meant by saying that and I'm sorry if I wasn't clear and hurt you.

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LOL...no, I'm not hurt that you said I'm hurt! You are so honest and sincere in your communication, I have no problems hearing what you are saying, even if I don't agree.
This would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed all the time.

I do think that we have to be careful to not judge against being hurt as though it is some kind of a weakened condition though. I take it that you understand what I said about that in my previous post to you, so I won't repeat it all.

Thanks for responding!

Katie