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Katie D Junior Member Posts: Registered:
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posted 03-24-2001 10:31 AM
Hi All,As you know, Ted and I get email from people who for one reason or another do not choose to post publicly. I'm still amazed at the amount of fear and discomfort some people experience around having anything to do with Con:Sin. It seems the closer and longer the association, the greater the reluctance to come forth. From what I'm hearing, there is good reason for this. There are many, many casualties from this War on Souls being raged by those psychopaths. Back in the early days Con:Sin used to have weekly "staff meetings" where every week some person would be targeted to have their crimes against the organization "processed". These were actually soul and spirit assaults on some hapless individual who had the audacity to make some mistake or another. The only happiness about them was in those who lucked out and weren't themselves sitting in the hot seat. They were nothing short of weekly frenzies where Peny got to assuage her lust insatiable lust for blood. Probably these charming little sessions were where her appetite for it was first developed. We can be certain that she had previously dipped her beak, but possibly this was the first time she was able to drink it by the bucketful. Here we see the beginnings of a long career of ravaging self-indulgence. During that time Peny started a little "women's group". During these sessions Peny introduced the idea of "goddess wigs". Somehow she convinced her gal pals that these grotesque wigs were very cool, and got everyone into a frenzy of wig buying. It seems that one of Penyache's big heros is the ever elegant Tammy Faye Baker, a woman well known for her good taste and sublime fashion sense. It isn't hard to believe that given Peny's own personal sense of style. When you think about it, Tammy Faye is the perfect model for Peny, cult following and all. The opinion has been offered that this wig scheme of Peny's was a way to de-feminize the women around her, maybe to level the playing field to bring everyone down to the level of unattractiveness Peny felt about herself. Hell, what else could it be about for a person to paint themselves like a billboard, and encourage a dowdy frumpy look in those around her? What is amazing to me is that some of these women continued to wear those wigs for years after. Was it compulsory? One can only try to fathom why someone would adopt and maintain such a bizarre look. One of those wig heads is a woman of past prominence who has since disappeared from the scene without so much as a fond farewell. We have now learned that this woman has an interesting history of her own. She was once a business partner to Werner Erhardt's wife. (Jack Rosenberg, ex-used car salesman, founder of EST). One can only speculate what inspired her to leave EST to enfold herself in Peny's ample but menacing bosom. I wonder if she brought the manuals on mind control and manipulation with her. This wighead was known to have a favorite phrase at seminars. "Do you have any good stories for me?" It seems that the rotund Goddess of Rage has quite a taste for little bon bons of gossip about seminar attendees, and quite enjoys holding court after a weekend or intensive to be spoon fed these tasty little tidbits. The staff is trained to hunt and gather these little snacks for the voracious one. So, how sickening is it to realize that every exchange between a staffer and a sincere, open, trusting True Believer is going to be dipped in blood and crammed into Peny's drooling jaws? Of course, one only has to take that thought a step further to realize that beyond providing some momentary relief for Peny's insatiable blood lust, it also provides lots of nice little bits for the Jachzaris show. Staffers do point people out to Jach, and provide him with any private tidbits they have gathered. So much for how the Orb knows people's names. Speaking of privacy and trust, it also seems that the Big Bitch listens to the private reading tapes. How's that for trustworthy? Peny once told me that "us sixes like to know". In retrospect I now realize that she was giving me instructions on how to be her pal. Spill all! Fuck you Peny, instead how about if I spit in your blood drenched face? Here are a few tidbits for you. barf Then we come to Jachass. What is he about I've asked a few. Not much response beyond, "Jach is a nasty little fucker who lives vicariously through Peny's vileness". Does that make sense to anyone? It sure does to me. Here is this creepy little wimpy twerp with his big ugly pit bull on a leash. He's far too much of a coward to attack on his own, so like all cowering little wimps he employs something big and mean to hide behind and do his dirty work for him. Yeah Jach, I have your number, you disempowered foul little piece of dirt. Kiss my Irish ass More to come.  Katie [This message has been edited by Katie D (edited 03-24-2001).]
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TedV Member Posts: 922 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-24-2001 01:24 PM
Hi Katie,I like your choice of icons to represent C:S's method of "processing". I also like your final icon to JachShit [LOL]. PenyAnte really does seem to be related to Jabba the Hutt, doesn't she? Perhaps she's an Orion - yeah, that's it.  Cheers, Ted
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Steve_Brooks Junior Member Posts: Registered:
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posted 03-25-2001 03:02 AM
Hi Katie and Ted,You got my Irish blood boiling here -- for sure. I recall Peny and Jach going on, back in the mid '80's about how they had attended "many" human potential seminars, such as est -- just to "check'um out and eliminate the yucky parts". Presumably from the Lazaris Material. I grew up in Marin County with est -- saw many friends and family turned into social bulldozers by it. And saw -- and still see the great value that the est training held within it's destructive cult web. I consider what Jach (and Peny, IMO under his shrewd control) -- have done to the spiritual growth seeking public to be far, far worse. You can easily see Werner coming with his drill sargent domination b.s. Far easier to have mental defenses up and life wisdom 'gem pick' there -- than with a velvet smooth all-loving con artist copy cat from absolute "highest heaven". Steve sb6@altavista.com
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Marilyn Member Posts: 156 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-25-2001 10:21 AM
Hi Katie and All,Years ago I attended a seminar in Boston...a very beautiful seminar on The Emerging Spritual Being. Truly, it was very beautiful and I did benefit in many ways from it. As you might imagine, I met a few new people and we enjoyed chatting over lunch. We returned together but were a little early and stayed outside of the doorway chatting about personal relationships etc. Well, only minutes after Lazaris came back, he addressed "exactly" and "word for word" what we had all been talking about!!! (I'm not sure if I told you about this before.) It was so profound that though we were sitting in different parts of the room, we all stretched our necks to see each other as we were "amazed" that Lazaris was so specific and exact on what we had been speaking about only minutes earlier and completely answered our very questions. Well, I've learned that there are "bugs" that are so minute and easily available, not only to FBI, that I believe that one was "planted" in one of those artificial plants outside the doorway where we were standing and talking. There really is no other explanation, though admittedly I cannot prove it and it is only speculation on my part. Lazaris spoke as if we had been talking to him directly...that's how profound it was!!! To a believer, as I was, this was pure magic and love and I really felt like I was heard by Lazaris......Today, I stilll feel like I was heard by Lazaris...but by a planted "BUG!!!" Mutha Humpas....... Love, Marilyn
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TedV Member Posts: 922 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-25-2001 11:01 AM
Hi Marilyn,Mutha Humpas, indeed! Well, they'll need to come up with a new way to spy on people now, since they have no way of knowing who is reading on this site, and attendees may be checking for bugs in the future - HAH! People may start watching Jach more closely and paying attention to the Gang when thay whisper in his ear. Maybe someone will set them up by deliberately discussing non-existant situations with friends at lunch and see if addresses the "situation" in the next session. What is the sound of a house of cards collapsing? BTW, did "Lazaris" provide any meaningful insight? Cheers, Ted
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Katie D Junior Member Posts: Registered:
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posted 03-25-2001 07:11 PM
Yeah MUTHA HUMPA!!! Our battle cry!I love you Marilyn Even in our darkest moments of fear and confusion you managed to come through with some gems of humorous outrage!! Here's another HUMPA for our MUTHA. There was gentleman who was around C/S from the beginning, I've heard that Jachass did his early con-sessions out of this fellows bedroom, before he could afford an appropriate space of his own. This man became a prominent and well-known presence at Lazaris seminars over the years, and then suddenly disappeared without explanation to be replaced by another prominent and well-known WigHead. Well, the story goes that this gentleman began being plagued by headaches, and for whatever reason chose not to seek medical assistance. One night he fell asleep and never woke up. So, how did Con:Sin respond? A nice memorial service? An inspired eulogy? A loving remembrance? NAAAAAA They trashed the guy for dying. I mean, how dare he? The person who told me this did so in choking voice riddled with sadness, anger, and hurt. My heart broke. More to come.  Katie
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Marilyn Member Posts: 156 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-25-2001 07:15 PM
Hi Ted,Yes, I did get some valuable insight to my personal situations...however, it was "how I used the advise" that anyone standing in an objective position would give, only it had a spiritual essence that I, then, absorbed with my whole heart and worked with. Part of the reason, I think, that Lazaris' advise meant "more" to me is because he wasn't in a bunch of failed relationships..I mean "how" can someone who is as human and imperfect as I am give me advise on how to deal with my life??? And usually the advise was general and applied to all of us in one way or another because we, as humanity, are all so much alike! So I valued Lazaris' advise much more than anyone physical...How could anyone as human and as imperfect as I am tell me how to live my life..."especially without being asked???" L was "beyond" those limitations... Besides which, I wasn't being told what to do by L, I took what applied to me and worked with that. But, the true insights came when I listened to my own Higher Self after the seminar...L gave good advise, as anyone "outside" of a situation can, and the meditation was profound. L may have guided it to begin with, but it was "my own experience" and I treasure it to this day. That's why I've said before that I know that I connected to what IS, because I hardly ever listened to L throughout a meditation and went off on my own. (heck, when comparing notes after a meditation, I used to be embarrassed because I didn't remember any of what was shared with me that L supposedly said! ) And when I didn't go off on my own, I was usually bored with the meditations...that's when I would do my "peeking" and was amazed that L could focus like that for an hour's meditation, and it's also what helped convince me that L was real. Of course, I felt that old familiar guilt sometimes, too, because I failed at the meditation, blah, blah etc.  Anyway, though I will give credit to L for guiding me to that door, the REAL credit goes to my Higher Self and All That Is for any benefits and successes...and because I "listened" to my inner-voice and either acted on it or at least understood myself better.  Love ya, Ted, Marilyn
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Katie D Junior Member Posts: Registered:
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posted 03-25-2001 07:35 PM
Hey Steve,Erin Go Bragh! (Ireland forever) and Nár lagaí Dia thú! (More power to you) quote: I recall Peny and Jach going on, back in the mid '80's about how they had attended "many" human potential seminars, such as est -- just to "check'um out and eliminate the yucky parts". Presumably from the Lazaris Material.
Why would Jach and Peny have to eliminate anything? As I have always understood it, mentored and structured Con:Sin. Do you mean...could you mean.....this was a lie??????  It seems they weren't only checking out those other groups, they were evidently recruiting too. Nuttin' wrong with a little help from our friends! Ádh mór! (Cheers!)  Katie
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dolfingirl Junior Member Posts: Registered:
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posted 03-27-2001 10:16 AM
The more I hear, the more filled with disgust and anger I get. They are SCUM.Vicki
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Audrey Member Posts: 302 Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-27-2001 02:01 PM
Hi everyone,I was reading these posts regarding the EST Werner connection, and remembered one of my own as well. You may not know that Werner was n ex-Scientologist himself, and really did not have any original material. Think of how many things started from one or two big powerful cults!! The human ego is an amazing thing despite what the orb says about it.. D-Ya think?? Well, another interesting connection was a Marin based "personal growth" group know as PSI, or People sinergistically involved, I ran into them in Southern Ca. but they were doing seminars all throughout CA. Wasn't if great to grow up in CA????? You know for all our goofy cults, it still was an exciting time,. and I remember feeling like this was true what Tim Leary said .... "California, is Like,.... the Jumping off point, there is no-where else to go but.... Out there.. or sumthin' like that...... Anyway back to my point.... what wuz my point...it was that none of these fools have a clue, nor do they have an original idea. Many years after attending PSI seminars I came accross one of their booklets, and it had a quote right outta "abraham" that Texan female channe-frek, who ALSO said SMoking was GOOD for ya.!!!! Boss is callin' gotta jet.... Chow,AUDrey
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Crystal Clear Member Posts: 59 Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 03-27-2001 02:53 PM
Hi, Audrey, quote: Well, another interesting connection was a Marin based "personal growth" group know as PSI, or People sinergistically involved, I ran into them in Southern Ca. but they were doing seminars all throughout CA.
This is fascinating! I had often wondered why they came up with the name Concept:Synergy instead of just Lazaris. What was the point? Obviously they lifted it from PSI, which is the closest answer I can find. Anyone have any other clues?  Crystal
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Marilyn Member Posts: 156 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-27-2001 05:44 PM
Hi Crystal,You asked for any other ideas as to where the name Concept: Synergy came from. I always believed and it made pure, good sense to me, that the Concept of this Synergy was aimed at Body, Mind, and Soul working as One.....that by using our mind and Soul as co-workers with our body, or physical self, we were Whole/Synergized, instead of just the sum of our singular parts; that, though we knew existed, worked apart from, separated from, or singularly. That was my belief and understanding from the beginning...I never heard of PSI, but can see where the idea of "Concept:Synergy" came from now. It's still my understanding that L has taught us to work with our Higher Selves, Counsellors, our Soul and Spirit "synergistically." That's how I choose to continue to work because I do see the value of doing that consciously. We have always done it unconsciously and it's far better to do it this way, for me. However, I do NOT think that though this is valuable to me that it outweighs the lies and manipulations of L, Jach, Peny, or any others who are a part of C:S. Yeah, their works are "synergistically negative and rotten." They're probably unhappy people because somewhere they must have a conscience..or little twinges of guilt, or shame. I don't think their True Selves would applaud them for being so nasty and unscrupulous...and they KNOW it!!! I know this isn't really what you asked about but this is what came to mind.   Marilyn
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Crystal Clear Member Posts: 59 Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 03-28-2001 06:11 AM
Hi, Marilyn, quote: I always believed and it made pure, good sense to me, that the Concept of this Synergy was aimed at Body, Mind, and Soul working as One.....that by using our mind and Soul as co-workers with our body, or physical self, we were Whole/Synergized, instead of just the sum of our singular parts; that, though we knew existed, worked apart from, separated from, or singularly. That was my belief and understanding from the beginning...I never heard of PSI, but can see where the idea of "Concept:Synergy" came from now.
Thanks so much for this insight! I've always felt this, too, as something that was second nature to my approach to life, health, and well-being. After being "involved" with Con/Syn for some 17 years, I had never thought of this possible connection!! I had never heard of PSI either, not being a Californian!  quote: It's still my understanding that L has taught us to work with our Higher Selves, Counsellors, our Soul and Spirit "synergistically." That's how I choose to continue to work because I do see the value of doing that consciously. We have always done it unconsciously and it's far better to do it this way, for me.
Yes, I like this approach and is what I do, and did, too, but not necessarily under the directive of L. It's very interesting, that since severing my Lazaris connections, everything has become much more meaningful, lighter, and lightfilled as if some heavy shadow has been released and dissolved as the light of awareness has dawned. For the first time in years I have been busily cleaning house and getting rid of old stuff that's no longer of any value. It's truly amazing how great that feels and what healing and release results. Thanks so much, Marilyn, for your insights!!  Crystal
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Jeremiah Member Posts: 250 Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 03-28-2001 09:04 AM
Dear All,I believe Buckminster Fuller is credited with the concept of synergy , illustrated in the statement "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts" The original quote from Fuller was: "the behavior of whole systems unpredicted by the behavior of their parts". "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts" is in some respects a restatement of that quote. Synergy as it applies to psychology and social science was first applied by Ruth Benedict, an anthropologist and poet who died in the 40's. Her observation was that certain Native American tribes had an aura of peace, growth and security that set them apart from other tribes. None of the commonly accepted statistical variables allowed her to form a reliable thesis to explain why. Benedict made an intuitive leap and stated that a pattern sometimes emerges in a whole that doesn't appear in any of the parts, and she termed it 'synergy'. I do recall Lazaris crediting Ruth Benedict with this on earlier tapes. I bet it is Jach and Penys fervent hope that this concept of synergy in relationship to them works in reverse. Since all of the known variables of CS [Jach, Peny and the Gang] are, [in my opinion] greedy, hostile, nasty and deceptive, their only hope is that from those components something emerges that doesn't resemble any of them. Fat chance. Synergy doesn't redeem any individual. Cheers, Jeremiah
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Jeremiah Member Posts: 250 Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 03-28-2001 09:20 AM
Hey All,Just wanted to ask if anyone has heard CS claim authorship of the concept of synergy? Reason being, though Lazaris credits Ruth Benedict on tapes, there is no indication [in my opinion] that Peny has any awareness whatsoever of what is on those tapes. It would be interesting to know if she has taken credit or reassigned credit for the concept. Cheers, Jeremiah
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