Of late, we have had several "I take all the gems I can get from Con:Sin -- and just IGNORE the spiritual / emotional / social damage that I *fully understand* is going on."

Let's face it. Yuppies play the very same game with material accumulation -- it goes like this: The Ends Of My Personal Material Expansion Justify Any -- And All Means, Period.

It shouldn't surprise anybody, here that these Con:Sin spiritual technology opportunists are often the most icy, socially disconnected kind of yuppie behavioral animal when it comes to personal success.

Here's to social, spiritual, and material advancement with social awareness, compassion, and integrity.

Thankfully, my millionare success mentors continue to be two wonderful older friends who drive cars that any decent yuppie shark wouldn't be cought dead in.

And that's the trap that those who continue to take from Con:Sin while ignoring Con:Sin's human violence may very well be in. IMO they're likely terrified of loosing some sense of social aproval and belonging that the Con:Sin cult has indeed Mad. Ave hypnotically rammed deep in their emotional and social lives.

Strive for the approval of those with social impact integrity, and the scorn of those without any, folks.

The other way around can, in time only dig you in farther and disconnect you deeper from life.

Steve
sb6@altavista.com

Oh yeah...the style of C:S is selfish, self-serving, and exactly like you said, "The ends justify the means." Where is the love??? It seems to me that love given comes back three-fold and most seminar attendees are very loving. They seem to be so filled with love and "gratitude" that they are blinded to the manipulation, not believing that it could be possible. I hope they are reading here and at least "think" about what is being said...consider and "become aware."

Great post, Steve. Thanks a bunch..

Love,

Thank you for this very liberating post. You have very eloquently, elegantly and succinctly put into words what my "whispers" have been trying to get me to fully comprehend for over a half a year now. I suspect that most of the people regularly posting and many who are regularly reading here have been hearing the same whispers and are here for that reason.

IMO it is difficult for those pulled in by Con:Sin to admit to themselves that they have been taken for a ride末investing for a long time financially and emotionally AND spiritually末by materialistic, self-serving tyrants, who actually DON'T want them to grow beyond their range of control. Also, it is difficult to let go of a fabricated source of "power,"confidence and love, that is not based on truth, but on a con.

The truth as you have written, if I can reword it as I understand it: stay DISHONEST WITH YOURSELF and you will eventually, inevitably find yourself SPIRALING DOWNWARD末financially, emotionally AND spiritually. Integrity is the primary characteristic for true spiritual growth. Making greed the motivating force in life is a way to turn that life into "hell"末isolated, distrusting, defensive, fearful, and never being able to feel true joy.

For a while the things Con:Sin did with the theatrics that they offered, did raise our resonance, and give us hope for our personal successes (growth). This was, of course, a good thing. But when it becomes apparent that this was just theatrics and not what it appeared to be末it becomes imperative to face and be honest with oneself that it HAS been just a well-designed show, and not a real guide to a healthy lifestyle on any level.

This has to be the first step, whether or not this admission leaves a big frightening hole in the middle of one's belief system or even life. There is no way around it.

The next step is dealing with this "big, frightening hole".

IMO, the more honest you are with yourself, the faster that nasty gap will start to "close up." It's been my experience, as it seems to also have been yours, Steve, that the Universe will immediately start to send what you really need to heal and start growing again, because you are not allowing any one to spoon feed you information, thoughts, suggestions, etc. that are not meant to to make you a complete person.

Best Regards,
Karolina

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[[Let's face it. Yuppies play the very same game with material accumulation -- it goes like this: The Ends Of My Personal Material Expansion Justify Any -- And All Means, Period]]

What fascinates me is the way in which Jach and Peny have dropped clues to their corrupt nature all over the place, almost without discrimination.... for years.

Ya know how you can track animals by the trail of shit they leave behind?

Jach and Peny have witlessly left spore after stinking spore in their path, spelling it out very clearly for anyone willing to stomach the stench long enough to look.

Maybe they have "made maps" after all...

Lazaris used to emphasize in the earlier material that "The steps of getting somewhere are the qualities of being there"

Not for years mind you, has Lazaris put this concept forth.. any guesses as to why?

Certainly has nothing to do with Lazaris not wishing to repeat himself, we know Lazaris does NOT shy away from doing that.

Maybe the concept creates just too tight a screen for PenyAch's spiritual blubber to pass through.

Maybe it would weaken their "powerbase" to have a room full of people come to the realization that the powerlesness and confusion they are now feeling from having been manipulated and abused by Concept Synergy are just indications of more of the same to come.

I notice that in the last few years a strong and concerted effort on CS's part to encourage us to all but forget the past.

Perhaps they left too many stinking piles of manure back there in the past and would much prefer people didn't walk down that road and step in them.

One time on the forum there was a discussion about the role of the past in reality creation and I wrote something that was slightly off the party line about "The past being over".

Peny and Jach wrote me fast and furious [privately and in the forum] as to how I was missing something important and thus implying I was risking my evolution.

Honestly at the time I saw their point and revised mine.

Peny wrote me later [email] that Jach spent "alot of time thinking about how to address this with you"... that struck me as very strange back then. Why would Jach care so much? We weren't close friends or anything.

In retrospect, I suspect it was an indication of a strategic change they had been trying to to make in the material for years.

The goal? to manipulate people away from using the past to evaluate their behavior.

I don't think they want people saying to themselves something like:

"hmmm I have been working with the Lazaris material for 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 YEARS and I feel frustrated, powerless, guilty and weak...since the steps of getting somewhere are the qualities of being there I better get out of this ..."

Anyone who believes Jach and Peny would risk their cashflow over an idea would be well advised to wake up.

Personally, I don't think Peny really understands most of what Lazaris talks about so I don't believe it was governed by any strong desire to protect the integrity of Lazaris' ideas.

I think it was an example of PenyAch's fulesome greed subtley tuning the material for future profit.

Cheers,

Jeremiah

And thus was born the Personal Nemesis? The eventual healing of which would be the new Key to our total, unprecedented Success?

Our keychains have gotten very heavy by now, but get out your checkbook anyway. Oh, and pick up a couple of crystals while you're at it. They can be attached to the keychain too!

I like to wear my full keychain hanging off of my goddess wig, the way Keith Richards wears clothes pins and roach clips in his do. It makes me feel so fetching.

Cheers,
Karolina

I'd like to share with you some of the musings I'm having this morning. Whenever I am trying to fully understand something "Simplify!" seems to be the call word that I hear echoing in my mind and to be the approach that I find most effective. So after yesterdays various energy-filled posts in multiple threads, I picked up my American Heritage Dictionary and looked up a few words.

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psychopath: a person with an antisocial personality disorder, esp. one manifested in aggressive, perverted, or criminal behavior.

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antisocial: hostile to the established social order.

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Well, by these definitions, almost everybody is a bit of a psychopath at adolescence, earnestly and desperately trying to buck the "established social order" in which they are a child and to pull themselves, frightened and/or excited, into a new role of "adult" in the already established world of "the grown-ups."

By these definitions, feminists could have been considered (and often were) kind-of psychopaths...until there were enough of them organized to start their own social order and work from there to impact the world with their ideas of equality. Same with freedom fighters and most social reformers anywhere. Am I right, according to these definitions?

So what makes it so that we don't frown and shake our heads whenever we think of these "psychopaths?" Why are the teen-agers remembered with affection (usually, LOL), and the social reformers respected and even thought of as heroes?

Well, we see them as positive forces because their goal WAS/IS freedom and equality. In the case of healthy adolescents, for themselves, in the case of freedom-fighting social-reformers, for themselves AND those that they represent(ed).

Now, to look at tyrants throughout history...most of them started out the same way. Dissatisfied and feeling unempowered by the established social order, they rose to represent and lead a downtrodden mass to a better New World. The difference between them and the "heroes" was a cleverly masked arrogance. Oh by the way:

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arrogant: unpleasantly and disdainfully self-important; haughty.

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The tyrants actually had/have no respect for the people they professed to want to help empower, and no sense of boundaries, i.e. something like this "I am the new leader of these people. These people have been and continue to be resources for me. Success is total access to resources. As their leader, for their sake, I must be successful. For their sake I can do whatever the hell I feel like doing with them. I must bludgeon them down so they know that they are just a resource for me. And these resources must be utilized!"

OK. Now let's assume that it is true that "like attracts like". Well, then it is no surprise that these arrogant psychopaths, are surrounded by more arrogant psychopaths, fearful of what the top psychopath can do when crossed (they know the extent that a true psychopath is willing to go to!) and secretly resenting the top dog. So what is created here? An oligarchy where everybody is walking on eggshells at the home office!

Of course, there has to be a way to keep those annoyingly needy, pathetically demanding masses beaten down and under control. That is, of course, the role of the specially designated, cleverly rewarded "armed services."

But, maybe, there is...an even better way... Maybe there is a way to control these resources from the inside not just the outside?

The recent talk of putting firewalls in to protect our computers from sneaky attackers sending a Trojan Horse in to muck with our data, has gotten me thinking again of the most powerful computer each of us own....

Wow. If the resources could be persuaded to voluntarily give access to that most powerful computer that they each, individually own末their brains...

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hypnosis: an induced sleeplike state in which the subject may experience forgotten or suppressed memories, HALLUCINATIONS, and HEIGHTENED SUGGESTABILITY.

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...what an amazingly effective bit of Trojan Horse software might be sent in there. One that would program their computers to believe that there is an superior entity that is devoted to the tyrant that knows them better than they know themselves, will love them forever and WILL BE WITH THEM FOREVER. No matter what. That way, they are HOOKED for frigging life...oh, and beyond. No matter what.

Unless they consciously clean out the computer. Simplify.

Oh...and put in a firewall.

Cheers,
Karolina

Columbus sailed the ocean blue'
In fourteen hundred ninety two.

I would like to point out that I am the 1492nd one to post, which, I believe qualifies me for the NEW WORLD AWARD:

If you would all like to agree to join my currently non-existant following, I will be all-too-happy to lead you all to the New World.

Is that a New World of Dreams, Mediocrity or Nightmares? You must be a MapMaker. I hope you dealt with you Nemesis Oh, I'm truly in negative ego now...

Cheers, Ted

The New World of Marching to the Beat of a Different Drum.

It will be mmmahvehlous!

Right Back Atchya!
Karolina

Intriguing post!

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Wow. If the resources could be persuaded to voluntarily give access to that most powerful computer that they each, individually own末their brains末what an amazingly effective bit of Trojan Horse software might be sent in there. One that would program their computers to believe that there is an superior entity that is devoted to the tyrant that knows them better than they know themselves, will love them forever and WILL BE WITH THEM FOREVER. No matter what. That way, they are HOOKED for frigging life...oh, and beyond. No matter what.

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Trojan Horse, yes absolutely! It's important for us to understand the function of the mind. I learned recently that people who are losing their eyesight are prone to hallucinations. The mind is looking for images which the eye can no longer produce, and because it is so insistant the brain actually creates such powerful imagery that it's owner is sure they are actually seeing them. One of the common hallucinations is that the person will clearly "see" something, such as a car parked in the driveway, because the brain is so used to it being there that it will actually produce it even when it isn't there. This illustration really got me thinking about how our minds can be tricked and in return trick us. Maybe none of us know the full potential of mind control. I'm sure all of us have had "Lazaris" experiences which we still have a hard time explaining away. Maybe as our minds got used to the Lazaris imagery it became more and more willing to produce them for us.

Unless they consciously clean out the computer. Simplify.

Yes, for sure it is important to make the conscious effort to retrain our minds, and to be clear about the difference between

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LOL...now, if we could market those........ !

Katie

I still believe that Hypnosis is an absolutely invaluable tool when it is used to induce a person to heal themselves or to process and/or relieve mental, emotional and physical pain and stress. I don't know why it is not more in the mainstream for the healing of insidious diseases and for helping emotionally damaged individuals. It cuts through all the bullshit and goes right to the control center, where IMO a skilled hypnotist working with the state of heightened suggestibility could be more effective than most prescription medications.

The problem is, of course, the total vulnerability of the subject to the person/people offering the suggestions at that level. If you are working with someone who is able to be totally professional and scientific, able to stick to the sole agenda helping you heal yourself, there is probably no danger.

But if you are vulnerable to someone who wants to come in and "muck" with the data in your computer, for their own ends, you're in a bad place at that moment. Not that any damage done there is irreversible, but it has to be consciously worked through, IMO.

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Maybe as our minds got used to the Lazaris imagery it became more and more willing to produce them for us.

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Certainly our subconscious minds set about generating "Lazaris" imagery as they would with anything that had enough intent and repetition.

An interesting synchronicity. About a month before I discovered Cosmic Fool, I had to dump and completely reinstall the software on my computer (first time). A few weeks later I was feeling that I needed to do the same thing with my brain and all those years of "Lazaris" material.

Actually even before that, I had a sense that my thinking was too wrapped up with what I heard on tapes and in seminars. I felt a need to separate out what thoughts and beliefs were really mine. But that was very difficult to do while still in the box.

Karolina, I really enjoyed your post on the origins of some of our common terminology. Very interesting!

I am currently pondering the potential benefits of hypnotherapy. Paramahansa Yogananda warns that repeated hypnosis can be damaging to the mind.

I have no doubt about the powers of subliminal suggestion, I am wondering what the ultimate consequences might be too.

This is an interesting topic for me, all of a sudden my life is filled with little "whispers" about the function of the mind.

Ultimately though, it is our souls which concern me.

I wonder for example, what difference it makes to be able to trick the mind to change a behavior that is rooted in the state of our soul.

Remember A Clockwork Orange, a fictional story about scientists devising techniques to re-program the minds of sociopaths? I wonder what difference it might in the larger scheme of things to practice behavior modification techniques rather than to encourage or seek deeper changes in consciousness.

Is a criminal who is conditioned away from crime awakened, or spiritually enlightened as a result for example?

If there is such a thing as a collective consciousness, what impact does behavior modification, or subliminal suggestion have on humanity?

Do you have any thoughts on this? Anyone?

Gee whiz, I'm waxing philosophical,but these thoughts do intrigue me.

I am going to address this very valid concern from my heart and personal experience, rather than philosophical theory or religious documentation. Please understand that I am aware that there may be a purely individual relationship to the force of hypnosis as to any healing tool.

Anything done through manipulation, as we have been discussing here for several weeks, is a lie. I personally believe that it is a "sin." Going further with this belief, IMO, healing of any kind that is induced through manipulation, including drugs, is also just a band-aid treatment, and not a real healing. And even with "spiritual" techniques末I've seen it and done it. It doesn't keep.

Tonight at the Academy Awards, in his acceptance speech composer Tan Dun said something that very much resonated for me末that his work to him was about being able to "dream without boundaries." That is what I have been striving for all of my life. To me that is what completely freeing your soul is all about, and I can't wait to be able to dream totally unencumbered.

Many people have been through or seen tragedies which continue to torment them through-out their lives. These tormented states IMO create the blockages that hinder them from knowing the total freedom that I am speaking of, and the joy that comes with that freedom. I believe that through hypnosis it is possible to go deep inside a person's psyche and heal the pain and release the shackles of torment, more quickly and thoroughly than any other way. But it has to be done with a commitment to complete healing, not as a trick or manipulation.

Steven Sodenburg, in his acceptance speech thanked "anyone who spends part of their day creating", because he feels that "this world would be unlivable without art." I completely agree with that.

Think what an amazing world this would be if everybody were truly able to "dream without boundaries."

Yes, the answer really is obvious isn't it.

Nothing good ever comes from manipulation, no matter how well intentioned or what the goal.

I'm still working on my thoughts about all of the Lazaris reality creation techniques being grand manipulations. Maybe that is why they don't work.

Manipulation can bring us little momentary "successes". Sometimes we do succeed in getting something from manipulation, but in the end for those who really want the real deal, those hollow successes fall flat.

What fun is it to get something that wasn't freely given? Better to do without, or better yet, to allow for our gifts to be freely given.

I think of the bottomless pit that Peny is, no matter how much she "gets" it's never enough for this very reason. Ill gotten gains are never satisfying, and the "gains" of manipulation are always ill-gotten.

We can dream without boundaries, of that I am sure. The trick is to know that all we want has already been given. We don't have to trip over ourselves to have it, we just have to let it be.

Thanks for your beautiful posts.

Thank you for sharing your experience and for your kind words. Synchronicities seem to appear in my life quite often. Sometimes I recognize them as carrying serious messages, sometimes they appear to be just fun, which delights me and appeals to my sense of humor.

I have a strong feeling that it is the same for you.

Co-dependencies, like addictions of any kind, are encumbrances to "dreaming without boundaries." There is shame and fear in these kinds of relationships that keep one shackled to a tormented ego. "Tyrant-resource" (sadist-masochist?, cult leader-cult member?) is the most difficult relationship to own up to, for either party involved, IMO. But like any psychological denial, the first step to health is letting go of the denial and then going for admission, hopefully with one's spiritual strength and/or a loving environment to support one through the rage, shame and hostility. I would assume AA and related organizations are created for exactly this kind of healing and maybe one of the valid reasons why psychotherapists often initially try to get their patients/clients to review their childhood and maneuver them to get pissed-off at their parents.

The Lazaris techniques literally stopped working for me when I heard Lazaris on one of the tapes state that none of us were capable of dealing with "God/Goddess/All That Is," as we were much too unevolved and weak to deal directly with such an inconceivably immense, overwhelming phenomenon. That we should stay focused only on reaching out to...our Higher Self AND (in a humble, kind, innocent, vulnerable tone) IF we choose to, "THEM", as "THEY" would be happy to help us if we wanted "THEIR" guidance.

Some part of my mind that had apparently remained aware, registered that bit of bullshit information as a pathetically insidious manipulation and a shameless spiritual seduction of people who trusted Lazaris and believed that he loved them. Something akin to child molestation, attention to which, synchronistically IMO, keeps reappearing on these boards.

In retrospect, it is to me not only a seduction, but an example of a major mind-fuck. I realized that my trust had been broken when I came out of the denial末no matter whether L. was a free-floating orb or a character Jach was skillfully portraying.

Love,
Karolina

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The Lazaris techniques literally stopped working for me when I heard Lazaris on one of the tapes state that none of us were capable of dealing with "God/Goddess/All That Is," as we were much too unevolved and weak to deal directly with such an inconceivably immense, overwhelming phenomenon. That we should stay focused only on reaching out to...our Higher Self AND (in a humble, kind, innocent, vulnerable tone) IF we choose to, "THEM", as "THEY" would be happy to help us if we wanted "THEIR" guidance.

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Karolina--what tape was that on?!! I totally agree with your assessment, of course, but they must really be losing it to say that on one of the tapes. I thought that we were supposed to be able to contact God/Goddess/All That Is! Isn't that what the Big L said at first? Maybe it's just me who's confused. {Vicki looks around at the wonderful people at Cosmic Fool and realizes that she's not the only one. } That statement makes me sick to my soul. I want to know which tape so that I can give it to my sister and HOPEFULLY she'll wake up too. Anyway, thanks for the information.

I had a feeling that someone would ask that. I have over 200 tapes and I so don't want to listen to any of them! I'll try to narrow it down to the ones that I was listening to last summer and maybe close-in on the likelies. Can anyone help? Does anyone remember this on either a Discussions w/ Peny or Laz Material Tapes, I think?