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jemille
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posted 03-08-2001 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jemille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jade wrote:
I think the stuff about the past "seeding" of undesirable futures did too. Before
getting involved with the "Lazaris" scheme, I liked Seth a lot. He always said, "The
point of power is in the present." That feels much more empowering to me than
Spooky's unnerving tangents.


I love the simplicity of Seth's statement--roots you in the here and now, both feet
on the ground, solidly in the present moment.

I always had problems with Lazzy's "The future creates the present against the
backdrop of the past" because all it really had going for it was a kind of lyricism that
felt profound, but crumbled to pieces when the idea was deconstructed; who wants
to live in a reality in which the power ultimately lies in your ability to grab onto the
"right" future, depending on "grappling hooks" to get the job done (and what a lovely
image, that--calls to mind sides of raw beef swinging in a meat warehouse.) I always
felt like it was a sly, subtle way to displace people's sense of power in the present.
I've also come to think that the (mis) packaging of self into the equivalent of
multiple entities (child, adolescent, young adult, adult, the negative ego, the
positive ego, the martyr, the victim, the future self, the Observer, the Nemesis, >>

I started with Seth too. I think that is why Lazaris always sounded a bit odd and convoluted to me!! He said good stuff as far as examining personal payoffs and behavior..areas where Seth may have said too little - for my needs. But then L just gosh darn just blew it with all these self components and 7's and futures hooked and all and I must admit I have never even been one for crystals! ;-)

Jemille

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Karolina
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posted 03-08-2001 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karolina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

I don't know...whenever I tried to do that exercise about choosing the right future, I never could keep a straight face. The image was too much like "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure", except while travelling in beams of light through time, we weren't inside a telephone booth with a broken antenna on top.

Cheers,
Karolina

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Jade
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posted 03-08-2001 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jemille,
OH yes, that "pipeline of future's" was another distracting, disturbing concoction that kept us focused away from the present, out of our power.

In another post I mentioned something that came to me. "Not mapmaker but... Maker." Designating us as "map makers" was a seductive way of saying this is how you are especially unique as a group, this is your destiny -- a form of being "the Chosen Ones." WOW and map maker instruction only comes from the great Sparky Themselves.

So when not fully caught up in this or that tape or technique, or trying to clear out the human crappola, or program for Then Artistry and Mastery of Absolute Ultimate Uncomprising Successful Success, there was our true calling of spiritual cartologyto attend to. If that sounds vague, it's because it is!

For me, seeing my self as "Maker" fits well with the "present is the point of power." Feels centered and focused.

One thing Seth said that I didn't take nearly enough to heart, "You are your own authority."


Love,
Jade


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iwonder
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posted 06-10-2001 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iwonder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI to all

Jach channeled in somebody's home in Mill Valley Marin CAL 1977-8(?).
My wife was there and got a 1 hr private channeling for $5 as I remember it. !! ts never been that cheap sense.

It all seemed quite grass roots, bizarre and real.

No Penny in sight.

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