I was shocked to find out by accident today that our beloved 2 facing half-circles w/ the line down from the center and a branch from the center to 8 o'clock & broken to continue beyond the half-circle, is lifted directly from the Silva method. Is that already posted in here and I just forgot? I also had another confirmation that Jach graduated from Silva in Michigan.

Karolina

Interesting..do you know if it is in that little trade paperback? The blue one?

I have only skimmed it but noticed a few interesting things. The count out of meditation is almost verbatim what Lazaris uses.

I also notice that the Silva method indicates that [in creating something] you will get some kind of indication that things are working or not within 3 days.

Sound familiar?

Cheers,

Jeremiah

Thanks for the revelation about the true origin of the "abundance" symbol. What an eye opener.

When I got the book a few weeks ago and realized how much of it was verbatum "Lazaris Material" without the contrived embellishments, I found out when the next Silva seminars in a town near me were scheduled. I decided to just go to a 4 hour ($30) mini-seminar, just to see what it was about.

So, this morning, after 3 and a half hours of simple explanations about reality creation, much more succinctly put than we are all familiar with, several counted down guided visualizations, and a number of already familiar to me techniques, imagine my amazement when in answer to some questions on financial well-being, the instructor explained a technique called the GREEN FLAME, and another one involving an ABUNDANCE SYMBOL, which he drew on the board! I am still amazed.

Karolina

This is a link I found very interesting in regards to Silva Mind Method. I know I posted it once before, but want to again in case you missed it.

Reading the course description blew me away!

http://www.silvaultramind.bigstep.com/generic.html?pid=11

Love,

Another thing that I have found interesting and exasperating is that to become a Silva Graduate involves ONE weekend workshop costing around $500. After that, any time (for the rest of your life) that you want to take the weekend workshop to refresh your knowledge and skills, anywhere in the WORLD, you pay a very small fee.

I guess that would be because there is no channeling of entities from Higher Realms.

Thanks for the info about Silva Mind Control. I didn't know that that stuff was taken directly from Silva. We're finding out more and more where "Lazaris" gets all his "wisdom".

Thank you for sharing all that info re: the Silva Method. It must have been unnearving to say the least when you were being taught the Green Flame technique and the Abundance symbol.

None of us have ever said that Lazaris didn't give valid and workable techniques, but damn, give credit where it's due. The only ones I recall being credited for anything are: Jane Roberts, Seth, the Shining Ones, the Ancient Ones, the Atlanteans, the Lemurians, the Beings from Sirius, our Higher Selves, our Counselors.....what about Jose Silva?????

Thanks again, Karolina, as I hurry to post this before I get booted off-line!

Love,

Of course the question is did Jach teach "Lazaris," or did "Lazaris" bring these universal techniques to earth and just needed to choose a channel who was already familiar with all the things that he was going to be accessing to us?

Or were those the moments when it was Jach talking from his Alpha state, and then the "real Lazaris" was coming through only when Jach was talking about such exclusive information as Star Wars Sirius and Lemueria and Merlin?

This stuff really pisses me off. I feel so foolish.

Well, this site is dedicated to Fools everywhere, so welcome to the club.

I like my Foolishness, it's my favorite archetype actually. Maybe that's what I like so much in you too.

You may be a Fool, but you are a Wise one.
There is much much more to the Fool than meets the eye.

The Fool delights me.

I'm sitting here with tears running down my face.

Well, okay maybe not running down my face.

Well, okay...there are no tears.

BUT...with what you are saying...I kind of feel embraced by the secret elite Society of Wise Fools Everywhere, and it's a nice flip to some pretty negative thoughts!

Yep, you are a Fool for certain.

Fun isn't it?

Foolishly yours,

To paraphrase Cyrano de Bergzac, that great fool of literature:

"Ah...my old enemies...Falsehood, Cowardice, Compromise. But they can never take from me what remains...my panache!"

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I'm wondering if they would say that they were drawing upon experiences that "the channel" has previously had.
Hasn't Lazaris said that he uses Jach's words because it is easier for him.

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I think "Lazaris" did say some nonsense about drawing on Jach's words. Perhaps to allow for mistakes if Jach forgets which personality he is exhibiting at any given time.

It doesn't hold water though - "Lazaris" claims that Jach is an "objective, full-trance channel", meaning that Jach is completely out of the picture during channeling sessions. A radio announcer doesn't need to limit herself to the vocabulary of the receiving radio - the radio can broadcast in any language, including gibberish.

I remember noticing on the purple tape "Programming" that it was interesting that "Lazaris" was using the words on a bumper sticker "several years ago in Michigan" to illustrate a point. The words were "If you're the last one out, turn off the lights." I guess because Jach had probably read those words while driving around in his home state, that "Lazaris" decided to use them?

Ted and Karolina--

You two picked up exactly what I was implying--LOL--but then, we already know that he's full of, ummmmm, crap (to put it nicely1 ) hahahahahaha

I just wrote that in there because that's what I think they'll use as an excuse for some of the forum members learning about the Silva methods. I really like the point you make about the radio broadcasts, Ted . It makes a lot of sense and is easy to understand.

Vicki