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DogStar11
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posted 12-02-2002 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DogStar11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found a blurb,through a friend, posted here about a Swami Virato, Joe banks, in Asheville NC...and his seedy past. I have a few friends involved with this person locally through a little Astrology club....I think he's covering up his past pretty well around here, and still trying to impress upon others that he is more evolved than the rest of us. I didn't get a great feeling about the man and want to know any good solid information. A local business is engaging in certain business ventures with him, and if it were me, I'd want to know anything I should be concerned about before going into business with a *sex-guru*.

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posted 12-02-2002 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOLOLOLOL

Swami Virato AKA "Slimy Tomato". I'd forgotten his "real" name.

Sex guru??? Is that what filthy smelly disgusting old geezers like him are playing at to get sex these days? Come on! There's no way that sleeze could possibly be "functional" if you know what I mean. Check his trash for Viagra wrappers and knock out drops is my advice.

Ted and I knew him in Philly. The last we heard he was in Russia.

He's pure slime IMO, there are many stories of him seriously physically abusing women. I was witness to some extremely dodgy interactions between him and one of his "girlfriends" or whatever he called them.

Slimy was one of the first to catch the "spirituality for fun, fame, and profit" craze. He used to publish some new-age magazine New Frontier in Philly. It was the only show in town so he did ok with it, although he had one problem after another because he just couldn't bring himself to play straight with anyone.

New Frontier is still online but it looks as though nothing is new since 1996.

http://www.newfrontier.com/

A fun editorial:
http://www.newfrontier.com/2/edito396.htm
(that pic has to be 20 years old or more. He didn't look that "good" when I knew him in Philly 13 or so years ago.) Maybe that was the last time he took a bath.

All I can say about him though, is anyone who takes him seriously deserves what they get.

Of course a lot of people have said that to me about Liezaris too.

It's probably true.

Sorry if I'm making light of something that is serious to you DogStar. I just can't help myself. That is one serious bit of proof that ANYONE can have some success at promoting themselves as a guru or enlightened being.

Good luck if you're wanting to expose him, but don't hold your breath that anyone who is enamoured of him will be very interested.

He's so obvious that it's hard to support the idea that he's pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. They have to be doing at least half of the pulling themselves.


Katie

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virato
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posted 05-20-2003 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virato     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people wish to destroy me. Most simply do not know me, and go on hearsay.

Others read into me whatever they wish.

I never knew this Katie in Philadelphia, but I wish her well.

However, nothing she says is true, and I have challenged her to come forth with any semblance of proof on any of these outrageous accusations and comments.

It is true I DO destroy icons, sacred cows and belief systems. My teacher, Osho, was attacked even more ferociously. They finally killed him. Yes, I have even had death threats.

By the way, for other opinions of me see http://newfrontier.com/nepal/Tantra-Testimonials.htm

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Gene
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posted 05-20-2003 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by virato:

My Master, Osho, was attacked even more ferociously. They finally killed him. Yes, I have even had death threats.


The only known successful use of biological weapons in the United States was by the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh cult in 1984. The group contaminated salad bars in 10 restaurants in The Dalles, Ore., with Salmonella Typhimurium, causing several hundred people to become ill.
Biological and Chemical Warfare Q and A, ABC News, Sep. 24, 2001

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ali
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posted 05-21-2003 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Virato

You wrote:

quote:
I DO destroy icons, sacred cows and belief systems.

and

quote:
My Master, Osho, was attacked


Need I say more?

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virato
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posted 05-21-2003 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virato     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before you say more, read some of Osho's words ( http://osho.com )...and mine ( http://newfrontier.com/nepal/discourses.htm )

Among Osho sannyasins are some of the most intelligent people on the planet (former Dean of Princeton...Vice President of American Express...etc., etc.).
Osho is not for everyone, only those bright enough and conscious enough to grasp what he was about.

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posted 05-21-2003 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Virato,

quote:
Osho is not for everyone, only those bright enough and conscious enough to grasp what he was about.

I have some clothes to sell you. They are made of the finest cloth, so fine that it is invisible to those not clever enough to appreciate its quality. Indeed, such are the qualities of these clothes that many years ago I sold a large number to a certain emperor, who must remain nameless.

Why are you retelling the emperor's clothes story, Virato?

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Captian Edward
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posted 06-17-2003 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captian Edward     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why give this guy any more press? If you stop talking about him no one will know about him...

He seems rather harmless from what I can gather from doing a google search. So what if he wants to have sex with a bunch of people-----Coca Cola isn't for everyone either, and I'm sure we could all do better if we search for real criminals.....I hope so.

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posted 06-17-2003 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AngelGlow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Captain, my Captain --

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So what if he wants to have sex with a bunch of people

That's sooo 60's.

AngelGlow

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Pete
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posted 06-19-2003 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been trying to write a post about the responsibility of organisations for the acts of their members. I've not got very far, so let me ask the rest of the 'Fools...

Let's say that after 9/11, bin Laden said (like Rajneesh) that the attack was the work of a few misguided individuals. "Al-Qaida itself is," I hear him saying, "an organisation made up of people wishing to attain purity in their practise of the Islamic faith. We do not condone terrorism of any kind."

What inferences would we be entitled to draw from the fact that a number of individuals did carry out a terrorist attack in al-Qaida's name?

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Katie
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posted 06-19-2003 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pete Darlin',

I love your question, but my head is aswim with pasta fazool and sacred sizzles at the moment. No time to THINK!!

When I do have time again though, I'll be asking you more about that article you're writing, it sounds like a worthy one.

In the meantime I have a homework assignment for you. Please answer this question:

I'm not planning on having sex with a lot of people over the weekend, do you think that makes me unspeeeritchual?

Katie

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mission
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posted 06-19-2003 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mission     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pete,
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What inferences would we be entitled to draw from the fact that a number of individuals did carry out a terrorist attack in al-Qaida's name?


I think this is an interesting question. I see a number of similar situations with various religions, so treat it as an illustrative example reather than opening this discussion to suggestions of Islam bashing. While I don't have what I would consider good answers, I bring up a few observations:

1. The act of distancing from the "deviants" is easily done, and could have "some" degree of truth to it.
2. The act of distancing can be used to divert attention away from the organization to avoid deeper inspection.

The trouble I keep running into with this is that it is difficult to "prove" a negative, so a statement that someone is "not" a representative of the organization seems to me to be asking for blind trust in the organization making the statement. Without being forthcoming with examples, I find it difficult to simply accept these kinds of statements.

Cheers, Chuck

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mission
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posted 06-19-2003 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mission     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Katie,

quote:

I'm not planning on having sex with a lot of people over the weekend, do you think that makes me unspeeeritchual?

I have a very foggy recollection of what was billed as the entertainment for the weekend.

I must have become a stray somewhere.

Cheers, Chuck

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Pete
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posted 06-19-2003 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Katie,

Sorry, there is no article. I just meant that I was going to write a post for the 'Fool, but then couldn't think what to say. Let me know your thoughts when you've more time, though.

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Pete
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posted 07-04-2003 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Katie,

If you now have more time, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this.

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posted 08-18-2003 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Namaste Swami Virato

Well the ART of SEXUAL EXPERIENCES are ALSO BAGGAGE My LOVE.. and at some point.. you too.. must ASCEND beyond the need for that CANDY and Ice Cream? Wink Wink.

Beloved One... This IS YOUR BAGGAGE... smile

The more you ENGAGE the Human Body... it becomes more like an ALCHOLIC who will NEVER be FILLED... because... NO-THING in this worlds within YOUR PERSONAL FIELD OF ACTIVITY of People... Places... Things and ACTIVITY can fill you...

It is ALL a CREATION of the CREATOR....The DANCE of Siva... but You are the Father My Beloved One.

Could it POSSIBLE BE... that you are simply a man who loves the BODY... and your GROUP is only a REFLECTION of your NEED to SERVE the Human... now I know all about TANTRA.. but it is very FUNNY when you go into the 18 VOIDS and there are NO PHYSCIAL BODIES THERE... so it is... only your PERSONAL ILLUSION.... and YES... of course you are ALLOWED your ILLUSIONS too.

Netti Netti..
Kisses & Hugs.

Swami Paramananda Jyotri Ishvara

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posted 08-02-2004 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virato     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I send you my blessings. When you drop your dogma and your beliefs, you will begin to understand my message. We are each spirit in form. If you deny your body, you deny your existence. Awaken and smell the roses and know God.

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Katie
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posted 08-02-2004 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I send you my blessings.

Cool. What are we supposed to do with them?

Can we take them around the internet and offer them to others who will then hopefull feel obligated and grateful too?

It does seem like a cheap way to get over. Does it work at all?

quote:
When you drop your dogma and your beliefs,

Which dogma and beliefs might those be?

quote:
perhaps you will begin to understand my message.

I'm quite confident that your message is heard loud and clear. Now all we're waiting for is you to be honest about what it really is. I'm not holding my breath though.

quote:
We are each spirit in form.

Deep! Does that mean that we don't have to pay our bills either, or that when we punch out our "love" partners they won't feel it?

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If you deny your bodym you deny your existence. Awaken and smell the roses and know God.

Ok, whatever you say, Holey Man.

Katie

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After crosses and losses, men grow humbler and wiser. (Ben Franklin)

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Micki
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posted 08-02-2004 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Micki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Katie and All,

Holey Man wrote:

quote:

I send you my blessings.

Maybe he should have said, "I send you my
(b)lessings" since he seems to consider us less than.

Holey Man wrote:

quote:

Awaken and smell the roses and know God.

Wish I would have known it was that easy to know God before I did a 14 year tour of duty in the LIEzaris - Lazaris - Cult and a 13 year tour of duty as a (NO)Fun-damental Baptist.

Micki
Speak softly and carry a big schtick

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Katie
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posted 08-02-2004 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Micki!

I like that B-Lessings!!

Hope you don't mind if I use it in my repertoire!

Katie

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posted 08-02-2004 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Micki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Katie,

quote:

I like that B-Lessings!!

Hope you don't mind if I use it in my repertoire!


I don't mind at all.

I think it's great you want to use it.

Micki

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posted 11-08-2005 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for What+     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WinkWink:
Namaste Swami Virato

Well the ART of SEXUAL EXPERIENCES are ALSO BAGGAGE My LOVE.. and at some point.. you too.. must ASCEND beyond the need for that CANDY and Ice Cream? Wink Wink.

Beloved One... This IS YOUR BAGGAGE... smile

The more you ENGAGE the Human Body... it becomes more like an ALCHOLIC who will NEVER be FILLED... because... NO-THING in this worlds within YOUR PERSONAL FIELD OF ACTIVITY of People... Places... Things and ACTIVITY can fill you...

It is ALL a CREATION of the CREATOR....The DANCE of Siva... but You are the Father My Beloved One.

Could it POSSIBLE BE... that you are simply a man who loves the BODY... and your GROUP is only a REFLECTION of your NEED to SERVE the Human... now I know all about TANTRA.. but it is very FUNNY when you go into the 18 VOIDS and there are NO PHYSCIAL BODIES THERE... so it is... only your PERSONAL ILLUSION.... and YES... of course you are ALLOWED your ILLUSIONS too.

Netti Netti..
Kisses & Hugs.

Swami Paramananda Jyotri Ishvara

[This message has been edited by WinkWink (edited 08-18-2003).]


Farewell to the flesh.

Who is Swami Paramananda? Is that related to Ananda? I have one of those temples about a block away from my house. Never been in though.

And who is Swami Virato?

Man I'm outta touch.

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posted 11-09-2005 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TedV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi What,

I don't know this Swami Paramananda Jyotri Ishvara feller. Ananda means joy. I think param means great.

Swami Virato is another in a long line of self-promoters. He runs New Frontier magazine. We knew him in Philly way back and refered to him as Slimy Tomato. Last I heard he was in Ashville, NC.

New Frontier has had many interviews with JachShit. After Katie and I concluded that JS was a fraud, we called Slimy and he said he had long suspected that. Didn't stop him from promoting the bastard though.

Cheers, Ted

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posted 11-29-2005 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for What+     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL. That's funny. When you drop your Dogma and you're beliefs and instead start dropping your pants for him then you'll know God huh?

Wow. This is 2003 thread. Was it that long ago Wink Wink was on here?

You know what's scary is he's(Virato) probably got a whole following of young impressionable fucked up girls who are dropping their pants for him to 'Get closer to God'.

The man should be arrested. Has he been booted from the forum?

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virato
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posted 03-16-2007 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virato     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome to believe what you read here about me, or experience me yourself.

Since January 2005, I have been doing a radio show. It is broadcast on one of Clear Channel's 1800+ radio stations.

With the exception of this board, there is little negative stuff out there on Virato.

The radio show VIRATO LIVE! is in its 4th year (and the only new age talk show of all Clear Channel's ststions!) The show is brodcast on WPEK, 880AM The Revolution and streamed at http://viratolive.com Saturdays, 10AM to 1 PM East Coast time.

Latest stats show +450,000 listeners

I invite anyone who would like to meet me to listen ...and call in!

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Katie
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posted 03-25-2007 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering that you felt the urge to post on a board that's been dead for years now, one is tempted to believe that you have no
"stuff out there" of any kind, negative or positive.

Hopefully any response to your slimy and presumptuous free ad from this site will be "negative". We'll leave it stand in that hope, even though we all know that any attention is good attention when it comes to self-promotion. It's just that I don't suspect that any advantage you might gain from intelligent scrutiny would exceed the fun of mocking you in public for being such a transparent fraud and a bad actor.

Have you ever held a real job, or has this Speeeeeeeeeritchuality Scam sufficed to keep you meaty and greasy all your life?

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posted 05-21-2008 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh, so the ever so speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeritchual Slimy Tomato, aka "Swami Virato" resorts to threatening behavior the split second his demands are not met.

How typical!

If you don't want to be exposed as a huckster and a fraud using the nebulous claim of "enlightenment" to provide yourself with endless Entitlements, don't come to a public place and try to blackmail people, asshole.

Thank you for demonstrating the actual facts about yourself, it's a shame I had to delete the content, in which you attempt to post our personal information for malicious purposes.

We'll be happy to keep this thread updated, since as you say, we get high rankings on the search engines should anyone seek a counter-point to the disgusting, manipulative, unethical, and downright idiotic claims you make about yourself as a way of providing yourself with an income.

As it happens, I'm not one of those women who you can use, push around, and threaten to get your way.

Fuck off, you Putrid Asshole. Everytime I hear from you, I'll be happy to update the thread for the benefit of the search engines.

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posted 05-21-2008 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this your "attorney" Slimy?

" I am a mostly retired patent attorney who could help inventors. I know the patent system and I also know what is happening as this planet and its inhabitants transition into the higher dimensions. I may be useful as long as the old systems are in place."

Where will he be suing us, through the "Galactic Federation?????

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Sick-o Fraud!!!

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